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Hello everyone,
I'm planning to change my RX 580 8G with a brand-new RX 7800 XT to play on 1080p with 144hz monitor. What is your opinion about the bottleneck values? Will there be high bottleneck?
Thank you for your answers in advance.
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A bit but it wouldn't stop me from purchasing one nothing else in its price range makes a lot of sense and in some games RDNA has less cpu overhead at the driver level.
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Cassius said:
Will there be high bottleneck?
Nope. Just a regular bottleneck. 5800X3D will solve this issue.
7800 XT is still miles ahead of RX 580 (+70% speed compared to RX 6700 XT, which is about 3 times faster than RX 580 in the newest games so you'll get up to 5x theoretical uplift, skewed by your CPU to a value of "up to 4 or 4.3x").
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Really depends on the games you play. I have a 5950x which isn't a huge improvement over the 5600 along with a 4070ti. I'm rarely bottlenecked by the CPU apart from the odd game like starfield. The 5600 and the 7800xt will probably be a solid pairing.
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Beginner Micro Device said:
Nope. Just a regular bottleneck. 5800X3D will solve this issue.
7800 XT is still miles ahead of RX 580 (+70% speed compared to RX 6700 XT, which is about 3 times faster than RX 580 in the newest games so you'll get up to 5x theoretical uplift, skewed by your CPU to a value of "up to 4 or 4.3x").
I think even with a 5600 at min he would get double the performance likely more assuming ultra settings vs ultra settings as it is so a pretty large upgrade.
I agree a 5600X3D or 5800X3D will claw back the majority of the difference which I would do over updating the ram.....
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Cassius said:
Hello everyone,
I'm planning to change my RX 580 8G with a brand-new RX 7800 XT to play on 1080p with 144hz monitor. What is your opinion about the bottleneck values? Will there be high bottleneck?
Thank you for your answers in advance.
My computer specifications are as follows:
ASUS Prime B450-MK (not MK-II)
Ryzen 5 5600
FSP Hyper +80 Pro
Crucial Ballistix 2x8GB DDR4 3000MHz (will be upgraded in the future)
You can overclock that ram and get 15% more performance easy 
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oxrufiioxo said:
I think even with a 5600 at min he would get double the performance likely more assuming ultra settings vs ultra settings as it is so a pretty large upgrade.
I agree a 5600X3D or 5800X3D will claw back the majority of the difference which I would do over updating the ram.....
Ya something is always going to be the bottleneck. I suppose the question is how much performance is the 5800x3d going to bring with that 144hz cap. The $500 for the huge jump in GPU performance will be very noticeable, but spending an additional $300 for a 5800x3d for a additional say 10-20% (given the refresh cap) in a handful of CPU limited titles probably won't bring the same amount of value.
I'd personally just grab the 7800xt as hitting the max performance of a 5600 will be well worth the $500. If the games OP is playing end up being CPU bound quite often (and not reaching that 144hz cap), look at how much the GPU is being utilized, and if it's sitting somewhere well below 100% (say <80%) then take a look at a 5800x3d.
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notaburner said:
Ya something is always going to be the bottleneck. I suppose the question is how much performance is the 5800x3d going to bring with that 144hz cap. The $500 for the huge jump in GPU performance will be very noticeable, but spending an additional $300 for a 5800x3d for a additional say 10-20% (given the refresh cap) in a handful of CPU limited titles probably won't bring the same amount of value.
I'd personally just grab the 7800xt as hitting the max performance of a 5600 will be well worth the $500. If the games OP is playing end up being CPU bound quite often (and not reaching that 144hz cap), look at how much the GPU is being utilized, and if it's sitting somewhere well below 100% (say <80%) then take a look at a 5800x3d.
Yeah op best bet is to get a 7800XT and only if getting another 20% depending on game is worth it grabbing an X3D cpu if not save up and upgrade platforms down the line whenever they're ready.
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I would like to thank you guys to answer my question plainly. I had concerns about the bottleneck issue but I see that nothing big is going to happen. So, I'm going to buy it and wishing best of the best for you guys. Thanks a lot again ^^
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oxrufiioxo said:
A bit but it wouldn't stop me from purchasing one nothing else in its price range makes a lot of sense and in some games RDNA has less cpu overhead at the driver level.
Agreed. The games where you really care about high FPS are mostly easy to run so you should be getting the full 144 Hertz.
Most single player games even ones in the last two or three years can get 100 plus FPS on a 5600 with the right GPU
It's one of those yes you might technical get a bottleneck but in actual real world situations it's probably going to be minor
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I use a 5600 with a 6800 XT which is pretty similar to the 7800 XT and there's a some bottlenecking here n' there though I'm using it at 1440p/144Hz. So you will see some more bottlenecking that I do but it's only in some places in some games and the games that drag it down to 90 fps are rare. Get the GPU first and then if you really need those occasional 90 fps lows to be higher, get a 5800X3D. But the 7800 XT will get you way more performance first than the CPU upgrade.
Don't forget to at least run your CPU in PBO mode to keep the MHz up at 4450. That can help in the most CPU demanding games.
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